i really think in this day and age, anyone still believing in the almighty hole in the sky just havent caught up yet--if they ever will.. i regard them as similar to the flat earth brigade.
stan livedeath
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Once bitten, twice shy
by UnshackleTheChains inok. having experienced the jdubs over 27 years.
i have come to the conclusion that sincere people have been 'conned' into the troof, into a 'system' of beliefs that immerses them into an organisation that holds them captive ie no honourble way out without being shunned by friends and family.. having gone through this horrible experience, many are afraid to join another christian group.
it's a bit like someone who trusted someone most of their life only to find that person was a devious lying individual.
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Disfellowshipped/disassociated – How did your parents handle it?
by Richard_I into those who were disfellowshipped/disassociated – how did your still-in parents handle it?.
i don’t want to fade, so i am thinking about disassociating soon – i don’t care if i’m playing by the org’s rules, i just want out.. however, i am concerned about how my parents will react.
i don’t want them to become super depressed or whatever due to me leaving the org.. i don’t want them to be hurt by my decision to leave the org, but i feel like there is no way of avoiding this..
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stan livedeath
i am one of the few who still had close contact with my jw parents. this started in 1981. i had previously resigned as a dub--10 years before. then--in jan 81 it was announced in the hall that i was regarded as apostate and to be treated the same as a d/f person. fine with me--just what i wanted.
life carried on with my parents-- i was their only offspring. some years later i was talking to dad about the shunning side--and he said he could not find any scriptural reason to shun his son. but i think it meant limited responsibilities in his congregation. ( not the same as the one i had previously attended ). so--winners all round ha ha.
years rolled by. mom passed away in 1998, dad lived on till 2016, i visited him several times a week in his care home. his jw grandchildren--and even great granchildren never went near him. he was nearly 95 when he died.
my older son--now 42 was d/f about 10 years back. his mother--a staunch born-in, totally shuns him. so she has never seen her grandson..
this shunning is an evil controll mechanism: fortunately it is interpreted differently according to each individual dubs conscience.
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My last Memorial
by Sour Grapes ini missed my first memorial last year in 60 years.
it always amazed me on this special night that the jw's forget how to park their cars in the parking lot.
i would pull in with my wife and there are 5 brothers giving directions on where and how to park my car.
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stan livedeath
i guess my very last waste of an evening would have been in 1980. i used to attend these pointless dubfests once in a while to keep the wife sweet. but by the beginning of 1981 she had filed for divorce.
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Another kingdom hall up for sale
by pepperheart inhi another kingsom hall is up for sale if you look in the rightmove property website and look for bradford in the uk you will see that its priced at £170,000.. but why should they need to be selling a kingdom hall off espically when they are not printing about 50 million magazines a month they vant be that short of money can they ?
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stan livedeath
ive just looked at the link; ive worked it out.
jehovah has ordered the building to be sold...and who can blame him ?
would you want your name associated with a drab dump like that ?
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Deceased circuit over seers
by Warren Wilson indoes anyone remember.
alex docherty.
albert broad.
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stan livedeath
graham carmichael
oliver macdonald
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If the Watchtower corporation went bust
by Fred Franztone inwhat do you think would happen to jehovah's witnesses as a religion and as a people?.
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stan livedeath
if watchtower went bust it would probably be bought by the mormon church. 8 million extra bums on seats--thats a lot of contributions.
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My last Memorial
by Sour Grapes ini missed my first memorial last year in 60 years.
it always amazed me on this special night that the jw's forget how to park their cars in the parking lot.
i would pull in with my wife and there are 5 brothers giving directions on where and how to park my car.
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stan livedeath
Scratch:
Theonly memorial that was different to me was the one when I got a hand job.
Was that a bribe or a reward?
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Clearly, undeniably, without doubt ... is there a term for introducing a thought in such a way.
by jwfacts inwatchtower article often introduce a point that has no merit with words such a "undeniably.".
for instance the watchtower 2014 august 15 page 10 says:.
"jehovah undeniably blesses the preaching work of christian women and supports them in times of trial.
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stan livedeath
s there an official term for this type of fallacious reasoning?
Lying
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The next time I see the cart babysitters
by Sour Grapes inthe next time i see the jdubs standing or sitting by their carts sipping their coffee lattes or updating their facebook pages, i am going to approach them with the following thought process acting as an interested person.. do jw's believe the end is near?.
do you consider your preaching work to be urgent?.
why do you just let people walk by if their very lives are at stake?
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stan livedeath
or
why not stand there with them--engage passers by--show the dubs how to witness to others ?
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Classic Talk Regarding KH Consolidation
by lepermessiah inlast night i was listening in as my spouse was on the phone line.
there was a big "local needs" talk announced and it was speculated to be about the congregation reshuffling.. that ended up to be the case.
i thought i used to lay it on thick from the platform....... this was the ultimate spin job - worthy of political office or a spot on the governing body.. one thing that stood out "while the numbers may not necessarily indicate it, it is clear jehovah is speeding up the work".
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stan livedeath
are there any figures to show how many new bible studies have been started as a result of cart minding compared to door knocking ?